PGA Tour vs Rest of the World
The anchoring ban has created a huge controversy amongst the golf community.
The R&A and the USGA laid out there plans to ban the anchoring of long putters. They constituted a 90-day time frame to hear opinions from all parties involved so that everyone could put in their two cents before they “officially” ban the anchoring stroke.
The 90 days are over and things are as confusing as ever. The PGA Tour and the PGA of America have stepped forward and voiced the opinion that they do not think this is a good for golf. And they went so far as to say that the PGA Tour may envoke a local rule that would allow anchoring. All that was needed from this point was the European Tour to follow suit so that the R&A and USGA ban wouldn’t hold much weight.
Well that didn’t happen.
The European Tour came forward and said that it wasn’t as big of a deal to them as it was in America, so they planned on following the R&A’s ban on anchoring.
Where does that put us now? I have no idea… LOL!
The USGA and the R&A will now meet and deliberate on whether they will follow through with the anchoring ban. If they do then the PGA Tour has to decide whether to enact the local rule of allowing the anchoring stroke. If this happens… I see a MAJOR ISSUE ahead for the USGA.
The PGA of America and the thousands of PGA pro’s who run lucrative golf shops and tournaments will surely allow anchoring at their venues.
Does that steel the thunder from the USGA?
Let me know your thoughts in the comment section below.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ Goecks
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Also, yes older fans may not like a move, but how long will they be around anyways? They may like it more if it some way helps with winning. Like more night games, etc. I think this whole situation is and will show Rickett’s true worth as an owner.
Hi CJ, here’s the problem as I see it. The R&A ban anchored putting, the USGA allows it – what happens come Ryder Cup, or Presidents Cup, time? Do they allow it when the tournament is played on US soil and ban it when it’s played in Europe? There should be one set of rules governing the sport, and everyone should abide by it!!! Are the rules of baseball different in the US than they are in Japan, China, Cuba or anywhere else? NO!! There are universal rules for the sport and everyone plays by them. Why should golf be any different? If the R&A ban anchored putting then the ENTIRE GOLFING WORLD, should abide by it.
Anchoring should never have been allowed in the first place and the R&A and USGA should have got together years ago and stopped it. No other club is anchored to the body and the putter should be no exception. Having a different grip does not constitute anchoring and the US professional representative bodies should get their act together and support the rulemakers.
Alex Graham,
Thanks Alex for the blog post, but should or shouldn’t have been allowed is a moot point. Anchoring has been allowed for a hundred years and now they are changing it. Keep tradition alive Alex and allow anchoring to stay.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
I am in my 70′s and still a single figure golfer. I use a “belly” putter and would need to give up the game I love after 50 years. Is that fair? I keep the putter away from the body so would I be banned? In any case my handicap is governed by the long putter. If I used a “normal” putter my handicap would balloon out. So , the amatuer doesn’t need a ban for the handicap system dictates the fairness or otherwise of
this equipment.
The pro’s can have their bans but leave we amatuers to sort ourselves out.
Barry Barr,
Thanks Barry for the question. remember the USGA and R&A have not ruled yet, but they are not banning the length of putters but the anchoring. You stated that you don’t anchor it to your body so you are good to go either way. I am glad you won’t be affected and won’t have to give up this game you love.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
IN ALMOST EVERY SPORT, THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL OF RULES AND REGULATIONS DIFFER FROM COLLEGE AND PREP SCHOOL. WE’RE NOT TRYING TO PLAY LIKE PROS… WE’RE JUST TRYING TO PLAY THE GAME PROS PLAY, BUT ON A LOWER LEVEL. DON’T PUT “PRO” WEIGHT ON US, IT’S ALREADY HARD ENOUGH. IF THE PROS CAN USE CLUBS THAT “ADJUST” AND DO ALL SORTS OF ADVANTAGEOUS THINGS, THEN ANCHORING A PUTTER IS NOTHING. I COULD SEE IF TIGER, OR PHIL, OR RORY, OR BUBBA, OR ANY OF THE GUYS WHO ARE IN THE MONEY WEEK AFTER WEEK USED ANCHORING, THEN, THOSE CRYBABIES WOULD HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON. I’M AN AMATEUR, NOT A PRO. I SHOULD BE PLAYING UNDER AMATEUR LEVEL RULES..COMPRENDE?
Al,
Thanks Al for the blog post. I say let everyone keep the anchoring. The idea is to grow the game and make it fun. If anchoring were such an advantage then everyone would use it. Titanium is an advantage and everyone uses it. Steel shafts and graphite shafts are an advantage and everyone uses it. If anchoring were an advantage then everyone would use it.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
GOLF WAS STARTED IN SCOTLAND BY THE SCOTS.
BASEBALL WAS STARTED IN THE USA BY AMERICANS.
WE GET TO MAKE THE RULES FOR BASEBALL.
THE R&A GETS TO MAKE THE RULES FOR GOLF.
SEEMS PRETTY SIMPLE TO ME.
MIKE
Mike Jones,
Thanks Mike for the blog post. There are a lot of examples that could shoot holes in this logic. i will be adopting “PGA Tour Rules”
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
Who do the USPGA think they are, disregard directives from the ruling body and go there own way or play against the rule makers as they stand at the moment, I think they should abide by what directives the rule makers say and play by the rules.
Paul,
Thanks Paul for the blog post. Remember we are talking about apples and oranges. Should the NFL go under NCAA rules? The main differences are sport related and has to do with safety, but in golf we don’t have to worry about that. The PGA Tour and the PGA of America runs way more tournaments than the USGA does. Why wouldn’t we follow the recommendation of those that run the tournaments.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
As an amateur with 45 years in this great game of golf, I’m constantly renewing my subscriptiont to the USGA. Why? Because you’re not playing golf if you’re not playing by the rules, that goes for amateurs and professionals. I was very surprised at the PGA Commissioner Tim Finchem taking a stand against the governing bodys, the Royal & Ancient & the USGA’s ban on these relatively new contraptions, that are called long putters. Being the professioal’s advocate, Mr. Finchem is obviously trying to protect his men who have been making millions of $S with them, the manufactures, making millions making them and of course his own salary! Amateur’s will always be looking for a little edge. We need all the help we can get. This unfortunate issue should’ve been nipped in the bud years ago. Where was everybody when this trend began? If you Pros are thinking about the good of the game and not your bottom line, you’ll quickly get in line or get out of the game
I have been playing golf for over 60 years. I doubt that the PGA will not follow the R&A and USGA ban. They are the ruling bodies. While there is no statistical evidence that that anchoring provides an advantage, it does look terrible and is a departure from the way the game has been played for years. It should have been banned years ago, but the time has come. If the PGA goes it own way, its players will still have to follow the new ban in the British and US Opens and probably the Masters as well. PGA members would have a strong incentive to not depend on anchoring for the other tournaments.
I don’t get it! If long putters and belly putters are so much better, why haven’t more “PROS” gone to them? “PROS” make their living playing golf, wouldn’t they all want to use the equipment that would provide the greatest advantage? I don’t know the numbers, but how many long putter users are in the top 100 in world rankings?
The argument that all other clubs are held in the hands the same way doesn’t make sense. People play crosshanded, they use “claw and pencil and left hand low” putting grips. Players have putted one handed and side saddle. Should these variations be banned?
Slow play is the worst problem in golf! If my group gets out in the first few foursomes we play in 3.5 to 4 hours. If we get out after 8am, it is usually 4.5 to 6 hours. USGA-Help!
Bob is right, focus on rules that speed up play. Abolish the stroke and distance penalty. If a ball is out of play, including unplayable lies and lost ball, just play it like a lateral hazard, drop and move on.
Totally agree with Bob and Rudy. Change the rules that matter to the vast majority of us. Not the bits that give some a feeling of power. Most local clubs allow a drop and move with lost and unplayable balls. make it official
Ross Kember,
Thanks ross for the blog post. Keep in touch.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
Bob,
Thanks Bob for the blog post. The PGA of America is trying to help with speed of play and trying to make the game more fun. I think the USGA and the PGA are on different sides. I wish they could resolve this peacefully. I could care less about the anchoring ban personally, but if it hurts the game then it isn’t good for it. One person quitting due to the anchoring ban is one too many. Draw the line in the sand now. The USGA should have learned from the past. If you allow something and then try to change it afterwards it is very painful.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
It’s about time the Pro’s thought about the fact that in the main they play on courses that dont belong to them. If us amateur (club owners in members clubs) have to put up with the ban why should the PGA of America think they are bigger than the everyone else. They are heading towards a more limited life if they persist and go up against the USGA.
Grooey
Peter Groocock,
I have officially been beaten down by the anchoring talk. I wrote a response and then deleted it. I surrender.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
Surely, as in all other issues, the law of the land in which the activity takes place must be accepted.It would just not be acceptable for any country or body to be seen to be encouraging its sportsmen and sportswomen to flout the law of its host nation.
Pass along to CJ, Otey Crisman offered a 50.5″ Long putter, hickory shaft, with two leather wrap grips.
gt
How does Golf backtrack on decades of precident? Leave it alone! This controversy is unnecessary.
I agree the long belly putter should be banned it gives the pro player a distinct advantage it helps take away a lot of physical faults
Well, if that’s the case… why don’t all the pros use it if it’s so much of an advantage? And… why don’t you use it (ha-ha)?
Al,
I think your attacking the wrong side sir. Stop the friendly fire my friend.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
Ronnie,
Thanks Ronnie. Ever since you have been taught the game of golf you have been told to not break your wrist down when you putt. The belly putter forces you to break your wrist. This is bad technique then correct? Using poor technique does not create an advantage. There is not a top 10 ranked player that uses the belly putter so it can’t be a magic wand.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
All amateur golf throughout the world is conducted under the Rules of
Golf as defined by the R&A and the USGA. When the anchoring ban takes
effect, all amateurs will be bound by the ban. The pros in the future
will not be using an anchored swing because they won’t have used it as
amateurs.
The “problem” that exists will be solely due to the PGA Tour and the PGA. I have great respect for the skill of the touring pros, but they are interested only in the money and not the good of the game.
When the first Ryder Cup or President’s Cup is played under the ban, the
US players will be whining. But, they will have to conform if they want
to play.
The PGA Tour and the PGA should get on board now. Stricker doesn’t want
to be called “cheater”. Wait til the ban takes place and he still
anchors!
Dick Hunt,
Thanks Dick for the blog post. Stricker doesn’t anchor. Are you confusing him with Keegan Bradley.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
I think that the USGA should leave this one alone. If somebody prefers to put with one, good for them. I personally find that they don’t work for me. I,truly don’t see the advantage, and more and more amatuers seem to be using them, if it helps somebody enjoy the Game a little more, so be it.
LEAVE IT ALONE WE HAVE TOO MANY SILLY RULES AND THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER IT MAKES IT BETTER FOR THE AVERAGE JOE PROS ARE PRO AND CON
I think the arguments “for and against” have all been articulated. The key ones – as far as I am concerned – are:
> The ban is being promoted by a minority and there are bigger issues in our game today; especially the ball;
> Why drive a minority from the game who have been able to continue competing thanks to the long putter (“LP”)? Enforce the ban for the professionals and top amateur events but allow the LP as a local rule at clubs;
> Why ban it now?
> Recently, I read that Keegan Bradley was being called a “cheat”. Unless a decision is taken soon, this type of stupid remark will gather momentum;
> Can someone explain to me how the Kuchar method is not anchoring? Am not buying the argument that it is a free flowing movement!
> Last but not least…have many tried to use the LP? It takes a skill in itself. If it were so revolutionary why is it that no LP users are in the top 20% best putters on tour?
The USGA and the R&A set the rules not the PGA just accept
Bob Duden! Remember him? Duden had success on PGA Tour in 60s using croquet style putting. Joe Dey didn’t like it but if Nicklaus had been croquet putter then, we’d all be doing it now and Duden might have made the top 1000 in PGA Tour career earnings. As it is he is known as the guy who invented “The Dude” croquet putter used by Sam Snead. Bobby Jones never like Snead and he influenced Dey to get the USGA to ban croquet putters. When Dey was USGA Executive Director tour played used to say:
“his name is Joe Dey, pronounced die, but if you cross him you’re dead!
The USGA banned croquet putting on January 1, 1968 and Snead had to give up Duden’s putter but Sam continued to putt with both feet left of his line, a method he referred to as “rattlesnake style”.
It would be nice to see the Tour stand up to the PGA. golf needs to grow to survive, and if the average golfer can’t have fun they won’t continue to play.
Vinnie Giles started the anchoring controversy when he won the USGA Senior Amateur in Chicago using a tall putter in 2009 and then said the putter should be banned. Not surprising that Giles is a lawyer is it?
Anchoring is “cheating”. No debate.
Golf should be played to rules of golf, not to the rules of manufacturer or “professionals”" profits. Why don’t you get a grip and putt properly – 34 inch club or thereabouts,
We need one set of rules from one governing body (the USGA & R&A in unison) for pros and amateurs. Golf has become an international sport (long before we had belly putters appear) and if we have different bodies all making up their own variations where will it end. The Brits, and I’m one, used to use a different size ball from the US, but rightly we agreed that we should all play the same size (the US one). For over 100 years golf has been played with the regular size putters with handling a putter similarly to the other 13 clubs in the bag. The belly putting style looks ugly, unconvential and ungolf like and is inappropriately used in the rules allowing two club lengths.
The USGA needs to recognize that the game of golf is bigger than it and fall in line.
David M, The belly putter is shorter than any wood in your bag! David Smith – All modern clubs and balls are cheating. Ban them all.
Once again the PGA Tour does not understand the reasoning behind the proposals of the governing bodies. It is not a swipe at today’s tour players who anchor but a concern for the game’s future. I do concede that this should have been dealt with years ago, but we are where we are.
If the PGA goes it alone it takes the risk that it could end up with just one Major.
As to the matter of losing players from the game I don’t think so. It is the traditions and standards of the game, set out by the USGA and the R&A that keep us unique.
Peter Sheldon, England.
It’s been allowed too long to reverse. It doesn’t sweem to have that dramitic of an effect so, so just allow it.
i don,t see what the big deal is. so whatif they use a belly putter or a standard one. the pro,s are using both types and they dont complain. if it aint broke dont fix it. you dont hear the players complain so leave it alone. and go play with your tinkker toys and let the pro,s use what they want. if you want something to do go to the top of the empire state bldg and jump. we dont need idiots that are overpaid and need something to do… shut up.
As I see it there are valid arguements both for and against and there are also spurious ones but really it’s a simple matter; rule 1 has been in effect since the first rule book was available to all golfers and it says simply that if you are not playing by the rules as specified in the rules then you’re not playing golf. I’m sure that all of us have experienced events that we can say are unfair or bad luck but we play by the rules. The PGA’s remit does not allow it to make it’s own rules and so should they choose to do so then they will have to rename the game it is that they will be promoting. I would propose that it be named “American Golf”. Golf clubs could still offer ameteurs the choice of which game they wanted to play so it wouldn’t affect the grass roots and in fact if there is any validity to the argument about growing the game this should enhance it.
Graham,
You miss the point. The argument is against changing the rule, not about flaunting it.
CJ,
The ban on long putters, sure let’s not use our body as a mechanical aid. However, I think a bigger issue is to not have every golfer not on tour comparing themselves and playing slow golf. Slow play really stinks and I hear more golfers complain and talk of quitting the game because of slow play than equipment. If we want to grow the game I say play with the equipment and start allowing courses to police slow play and speed up those who think they are at the masters and read a putt from every angle then back off seven times just to miss the putt and start over from 12 inches. Wow what an issue, the last round I played was six hours and the course was 6800yards no major course issues or hazards, ridiculous! The usga needs to concentrate now on the real issues for how to grow the game It is to make it so it does not take all day to enjoy the game plus I believe people play better when they play quicker.
Just a thought.
The long putter is not a golf club. That’s it. What’s all the fuss about? Let’s get back to golf.
Two points – all of the other thirteen clubs in the bag are held in the hands and are not anchored to any other part of the body. All of you, grow up and play the game as it was intended, otherwise you will kill the fundamentals of the game of golf. Finally, can you please take me off your e-mailing list for golf lessons. I have already asked this of you. Thank you.
I am still and will always be a very average putter, but I’ve experimented with the long putter and belly putters enough to know that they give anyone an advantage, particularly those that have developed the yips. I think it is a mistake for the PGA tour to go against the USGA. And, I’ll bet it is all about money and ratings.
The real question is, what is fair to the entire field of a PGA event? My contention is that the longer putters provide a decided advantage, particularly on short putts, where the real pressure lies.
For years, there have been many great ball strikers out there on the tour that have never won. Why, because putting is also a big part of the game. These longer putters allow these folks to fudge their way into the winner’s circle. I don’t believe this is fair to those players that have a complete game.
I’m fully in support of the USGA and its proposed ruling.
I have no idea why anyone sees the need to ban anchoring. It’s been legal for years and, if it such a great advantage there is nothing stopping anyone from using it. Those few who want to ban it (and I believe they are definitely in the minority) could all use a long or belly putter too. I really don’t understand their reasoning.
Jim
If you found them such an advantage, why are you not using one.
Why should great ball strikers be penalised by allowing poor strikers to have the forgiveness of heel-toe balanced clubs. That is a far greater advantage than belly putters. Should we go back to primitive shafts and clubs? How far back do we gor to preserve “tradition”?
Alistair,
Wow Alistair that is a great point. Only as far back to benefit those that don’t like it when someone with a belly putter beats them lol. the only problem is belly putting or anchoring has been around for a hundred years so I guess we have to go back to the gutta ball and the mashie lol.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
The Eurepeans are correct. It’s not a big deal. The ban on anchoring should affect the professional game and the professional game only! Let the amateurs and weekend warriors do whatever the hell they want to. Chippers used to be illegal but the aforementioned non-pros continue to used them to this day. It’s funny. I’ve been playing at least twice a week for the past several years and I’m still waiting for
“guys like me” to use an anchored putter. No big deal!!
The proposed anchoring rule is very complex and it will lead to arguments among golfers and make self-regulation (a key element of our game) less likely. The current wording from the R & A has “intention” included which just makes it impossible to interpret. The only simple answer is to have a maximum length for putters. Those with the true yips will have to give up the game- sad.
The PGA should remember where golf started, Scotland , the R & A HAVE BEEN THE GOVERNING BODY SINCE THE GAME STARTED, the PGA should just put up and shut up.
To all you tradionalists out there…Let’s have the game require the use of persimon woode, hickory shafts and featheries. That’s how the game should be played. LOL
Most of the players I know that are using the anchored putters have done so to smooth out their stroke Yips or whatever. If it helps them enjoy the game and stay in it, why not.
As for the rift between the ET and the PGA it seems that PGA members will either switch putters or not play offshore, both of which will hurt the game.
I’ve read and heard both sides of the argument. I say ban anchoring.
I have no preference, but it appears the PGA is the one standing alone against the world. If all others go with the rule then they are the ones that look odd and being the cry baby as those in the R&A and European tour are saying
I have been looking online for a driver this last while, somebody knows something we do not know, because I see an awful lot of Belly Putters going at rock bottom give away prices.
My view is they have been going for a long while now, it is another added interest to the putting game, seeing how the long putter compare to the conventional putters.
There is no advantage apparently according to the stats using the belly putter anchored or otherwise, so why not just leave it alone, it is not really doing any harm to the game in 2013 it is called progress, we do not use gutta percha golf balls any more, and I do not see us going back to them.
Maybe now is the time for 2 sets of rules? One for amateurs and one for pros. I have been telling my playing partners for years that we amateurs shouldn’t be penalized 2 strokes for a lost ball, as we don’t have 20-50 sets of eyes looking and a camera that followed the ball into trouble.
The PGA Tour should toe the line like the rest of the world.
The nerves are too much part of the game; PGA players have to deal with it like Miller, Palmer and Watson did. Tough!
Let the amateurs use whatever they want, who cares.
I think it’s ludicrous.. the best putters in the world Luke Donald, brad snitt, Steve strick, tiger woods all use conventional putters…. there is no proof that there is any advantage to anchoring the putter and it’s been around way to long. Why now?… this just doesn’t make any since and we know right now golf needs all the help it can get.
‘Anchored ‘ putting is unaesthetic and actually illegal, in as much as it is not a swing of the club but a pivot. Get rid of it!
Stupid rule by stupid people. Golf has become a major commercial interest, and making clubs easier use for some folks is what keeps them on the course and circulating money. It helps to create jobs and further the interest in the game. I do not use an anchor putter, and will sink as many balls as most any average player using an anchor putter. Leave anchor putters alone and let people think they have a better putter………… jt
Pro,s are supposed to play the game as it was originally laid out or very close to it.With the new technology in equipment and now the so called “Belly or Anchored”putter they are making some golf courses obsolete.Who really knows what Jack or Arnie might have accomplished with this-I say play the game as it was meant to be-CHEERS for the Euro,s
Capt Ron
I trie d a be lily putter early last season and when I decided to stop, my putting was great because I think anchoring helped me advance my putting education…so I have to agree that it ain’t. No big deal….however. That being said, a we get older, our backs don’t hold up as well and belly or long putters save the back greatly….generally, this is stupid rule–you still have to put the ball in the damn hole, anchoring or not anchoring, so c ‘mon, give us all a break from know it alls…
I think that if this is such a big issue the governing bodies should have done something way back when Orville Moody and a few of the other players in the late 70′s where playing with these putters and anchoring them. Why change a rule now. To me that is a individual thing. And if they do change it the PGA tour players have until 2016 to practice using other putters and it should not be a problem.
CJ;
I am in agreement with a lot of the others. Rules are rules to PLAY the game and NOT to go against them as (the PRO’s) do, because they are better then anyone else. Does this mean they are GOD’S. Yes we poor pilgrams should follow the rules but they don’t have to??? Yes they are seen at least every weekend and if they can do it, why can’t everyone else. Yes there are LOCAL rules and I play on a senior league that uses different rules then the ( PGA ) does, but everyone on this league are told them before playing and there is no moneies won, just merchanise from the pro shop. So I think the PGA should have to go by the rules or to HELL with all the rules.
I personally do not care for the anchored putter. However, I do not see any true advantage for those who do! I was at Doral yesterday and the pro’s who were on were on, it did not make a difference which style of putter they used. The ban makes no sense. The USGA should focus on the ball and speed of play if they are concerned about the game.
I can’t really see what the fus is all about. Don’t care what kind of putter you use or how you hold it because there are many more issues to consider in putting well. If you don’t read the slope(s) correctly or the grain or don’t align properly for that matter, whether you anchor or not won’t make any difference, will it? And may I suggest that if you are amongst those who think it does, that’s OK; All you have to do is go out and get yourself a putter that suits your fancy. IT’S ENTIRELY YOUR CHOICE! And that may I suggest, won’t prevent ME from beating you on the green, will it ?
In sounds once again, that with sports, it’s more about the money. Putters. New drivers evry month. Crazy balls. Golf needs to get a grip on all the game including the putter. Remember, it wasn’t that long ago that 52 degrees was the wedge limit. All these changes may help the amature but it is taking a lot of the skill shots and imagination away from the pros. Thank goodness we have videos of Ballesteros and Player. We won’t have players like them again.
you can have my long putter when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
I don’t care how you putt, you have to practice to get good. Speed and direction are so much more of a factor than how you hold a club. Since the number of people that have been allowed to anchor their clubs over the past three decades has been allowed, banning anchoring based on a few tour players results seems ridiculous. Should we ban technology because of better balls and equipment that have made courses shorter? Should we ban working out and getting fit because that would be an unfair advantage to the majority of those that don’t. Since tour players walk, as in all competitions, I guess we should ban golf carts at local club events, just to keep the same rules. If the ruling bodies want to make everything equal with no unfair advantage, then lets go back 100 years. Let’s all play with one standard set of clubs and one standard ball so everyone is on the same playing field and the outcome will be determined by sheer talent. No, golf has evolved and changed over time to accommodate the ever increasing number of people that want to play the game. I don’t care how you do it, just get the ball in the hole. Turn your club over and hit it backwards. The game is hard enough. I use my long putter side saddle, kind of stuck out in front on me, non anchored. I have gotten good with it because I practice almost everyday, even won our Member/Member. But heard comments, like, is that legal, is that fair? Do I have an unfair advantage? I still have to read the green, I have to execute what I have just read, and I still get nervous over a putt. I just don’t see how one thing can make a significant difference in the way one putts and the overall outcome of the game or the impact on the game of golf. There are just to many variables.
Will this affect the normal golf club player? If so, think about guys like me, who are stroke survivors & have to play one handed because they only have the use of one hand.
The USGA and R&A are full of themselves on this one. I think this is one of the silliest rules ever to come down. I agree with CJ completely on this.
I still think the USGA and R&A, as well as the PGA and the PGA Tour all have much bigger fish to fry. And the biggest fish is the overall cost of playing golf these days. I’m really concerned that the cost of actually playing and practicing is driving a lot of people away. And there is talk that golf is about to enter a major downturn. There is such a technological arms race among the manufacturers and the cost is being passed onto the consumer.
Unfortunately, I’m in a holding pattern until things get better economically before I can do any playing again. The recession hit my part of Michigan very hard. Several courses have closed and several more are in foreclosure or up for sale. And the City of Flint had to get their courses under private management. And two of them still have yet to open under new groups. I’m afraid we’re about to lose a lot of people from this game unless costs are brought under control.
Believe me when I say it, I do miss playing.
And even things such as the cost of maintaining a course are rising. I do applaud the USGA in one area, though, as someone who worked on a grounds crew for 14 years at a golf club – the efforts of the USGA Green Section to find more grasses that require less maintenance and less water. And kudos to them for letting everyone know there isn’t always a need for wall-to-wall irrigation and that wetlands and dry areas can be good features of a golf course. What I’m trying to get at is designing and maintaining courses in line with the natural area – the biosphere – instead of carving out a new niche.
I don’t advocate anything that creates one set of rules for one set of golfers and another set of rules for another set. I was very upset about the wedge rule change a couple of years back, as it forced anybody who wanted to play with legal clubs to spend good money in the middle of a recession to get new ones. It was the timing of the whole thing, more than anything else, that bothered me. I personally don’t see why they even had to make a change in the first place. The groove rule was one that helped golfers at all levels with their short game. And I’m all about innovation when everyone benefits, not only in terms of playing, but in terms of actually being able to afford it.
If we make the assumption that every effort to move a golf ball must be from the result of a golf swing involving the use of both hands independent of any connection to the body, then there is no question that neither of the hands should be in contact with the body during the golf stroke. However, where in the rules of golf is this currently spelled out that the hands should not be in contact with the body?
I would submit that when you consider the great majority of people who attempt to play golf and never break a score of 90 or 95, perhaps it is not really critical as to how they hold the golf club.
But, again, when you consider those who wish to play competitive golf somewhere around par, I believe that the concept of swinging a golf club with both hands is most appropriate and should be adhered to under those circumstances. For that reason, I would suggest that it be spelled out in the rules for those competitive conditions.
I agree that if “anchoring” were superior, all the players would be moving in that direction. I have not seen an unusual amount of tournaments won by “anchoring” putters. In the absence of that kind of evidence, it is an artificial and unnecessary controversy! Let’s let people play the best way they can and see if they can find an unacceptable advantage. When, and if, that happens, then we can act.
I think a compromise is in order – allow the belly style putting in which the hand position ( touching each other on same portion of grip) and actual stroke resemble a normal golf swing but ban the long tom style of putting in which the hands are separated by a considerable distance, the club is actually anchored by the hands touching the chest and the stroke is not normal.
I have been playing for more than 70 years and do not think anchoring is a proper way to play. Bobby Jones did not, when Sam Sneed tried crochet it was banned and then he went to side-saddle. Phil nor Tiger use it either.
Perhaps the most contentious point is the use of the extended putter to measure distances for “relief”. Maybe the answer is to limit the 1 or 2 club rule to the length of the driver and to allow anchoring of the putter.
Dear Sir,
I am against anchored putters for the simple reason that by using your body for support it is the same as using an “aid” in your golfing strike. Next we will be using other gadgits to keep our swing in line.
Let the ruling body decide. That’s what it’s established for. Then abide
by the rules. Simple. Controversy exists in each sport:
*Raise the Hoop to 11 feet.
*Instant replay.
*Playing out of fairway divots.
Just let it be. And when the game start’s “lets play ball” by the rules.
I agree that the long putter and anchored putting should not be a big deal. Other equipment changes in the last 20 years have altered the game much more. Shafts made from other materials, various metal woods, bigger heads, long driver shafts, cavity back technology, etc. have caused many of our great golf courses to be obsolete. If the powers that be want to preserve the game, let them re-look a lot of that, the equipment industry keeps pushing the window. Seems a lot of talk over a relatively minor thing. Go back to only steel shafts, woods actually made of wood, not super sized and blade irons to preserve the game and challenge player skills. Of course it will never happen, leave the long putter alone.
I think it is easy to get confused on this issue; I see people taking a wrong turn. This isn’t about technological advancement, vis-a-vis the Pro V I ball … it isn’t about whether a putter extends 43 inches in length; the issue is whether any golfer can anchor the putter against his or her body. I personally do not think a golfer should be able to anchor the putter, or any club.
What I find interesting is that if the USGA, R&A, and European PGA all agree to prohibit use of anchored equipment, then PGA is standing alone on this one. Does that mean that PGA events are unsanctioned?
BTW, are there any women professional golfers using anchored putters?
I don’t use a long putter, nor does anyone I play with.However if this type of putting gives such an advantage why do only 1 out of 7 on the pro tour use it ? If it gives such a Hugh advantage why aren’t all the pros that make their living playing golf using it? With all the new technology in club and ball design giving big advantages to players now this seems to make no sense. The argument that it destroys the integrity of the game was compromised long ago.
I hope the PGA sticks to it’s guns. It’s about time someone stood up to the USGA. The USGA seems to think they are the alpha and omega of the golfing world.
If the USA and European tours have different rules, what will the players who anchor do instead of competing in The Open, Volvo Masters and the Race to Dubai etc which all the best players want to play? Watch them on TV? I don’t think so – the USPGA will cave in.
Gordon,
Thanks Gordon for the blog post. Ultimately if no one caves then it will be a mess. for those PGA Tour players they would not be allowed to anchor when then play overseas. I have had players that went from the belly putter to the normal putter and putt extremely awesome. Mark my words here that if the anchoring ban is different across the pond as it is here that a player like Keegan that anchors will use a short putter and will win over there using non anchoring. Anchoring is not easier and is not a magic bullet. For these players it provides a different feeling and a different look. Switching will give them a different look and will allow them to see the line better and I guarantee they will win sometime soon if this anchoring ban is bi-lateral.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
If the PGA chooses to not follow the USGA’s ban then I will NEVER watch or support any event, course, etc. that is PGA sponsored. Simple as that. It is not a golf stroke. Ban it.
I’ve played with people that used the long putter and have also tried it myself with no success so to me it doesn’t not bother me that someone is using it and enjoying the game more isn’t that’s what it’s all about.
I remember in the late 60′s when the dunk was banned from high school & college basketball, but after it was put back in those levels of basketball started to grow again they shouldn’t that away what helps grow the game.
Phillip Neal.
Great point Neal. Thanks for the blog post.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
No, Neal that’s not what it’s all about!
‘Grow the game.’ Why do you want to ‘grow the game’?
Forget the cliches, Neal. Extraneous aids do not make the game more fun. Rules make games fun, Neal. When people break rules it is not fun but they always claim they are just having fun when they pick up the ball in soccer to stop the game which they are bad at .
No, formality is fun, rules are fun. Wearing a tuxedo to a formal event is fun rather than sneakers. So forget your mantra of ‘ that’s what it’s all about.’
David
When the Pro golfers of the world start running the game then we really have a problem because without Jo public and the backing of business they don’t have a business.So don’t bite off the hand that feeds them is my point of view.
The rules are the rules and if you can’t abide by them, then take up a sport where the rules can be changed to suit the players with no bottle.
Golf stands well above the rest, against most sports because of its standards and traditions.These should be maintained at all costs.
As proportion of all memberships go to support the organisations that rule the game,then they should have the overriding say on the matter.If threatened by local ruling then ask them on which golf course they wish to play on?Lets see who has the power then?
These are just my initial thoughts and I could go on about this subject.Who came first golf and the rules or the pro tour should be the question?
End of I guess.
Simon Fitzpatrick,
Thanks Simon for the post. Ultimately I think more players and tournaments here in the U.S. will follow “PGA Tour” rules. The PGA of America’s focus is to grow the game and make the game more fun. The USGA and the PGA have different views. IF the anchoring ban causes only one player to stop playing this game then that is one too many. We need to grow this game or soon China, where the game is growing at tremendous speeds will overtake America.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
If we work on your thoughts that China is soon to outgrow the US then you maybe your right because there support of tradition is throughout.
We cant stop market forces but we can educate them,bit like US restrictions on Korea,as to what is the right and wrong thing to do?
That is a prime example of why the world has rules and rulers.
If life is like a round of golf then my points should be applied,we may loose one but we will gain respect in the game and get so much more.
‘grow the game’ gibberish. You’re talking about business not golf!
‘If one person gives the game up because of the ban that is one too many.’ Gibberish. If players are not allowed to use their clubs like pool cues should we give in to them? No of course not. Let’s stick to the rules.
Goecks is a great teacher but he is way off base on this issue.
I personally will no longer support a organizaton that I think is no longer looking after the good of the game. I think those who follow the USGA are too traditional and need to take a real look at all the rules in the game there is no call for 5 hour rounds at any local muni or on the PGA tour changeing some of the rule would help to speed up the game and everyones enjoyment. I personally am keeping my belly putter and ant tournament that says I cant use it wont enjoy my company or support thank you vert much
let,s all go back to the royal and I do mean ancient
standards and play wooden sticks and feather balls.Shall we wear
kilts . has to be cold on a windy day.dont you think?I think it,s
time to realize the game has change and we need to accept the fact
it is not nor will it ever be the same game that old Tom played
out in the sheep pasture.golf is getting as bad as the IRS so many
so called experts telling us what their opinion is.I think par 4,s
should be par 3,s for bubba because he hits the ball too far.
wake up you ancient and royal ninnies leave golf to the people who love the game.
PS If we wanted more idiots to tell us how to live
and play we,ll elect them
Who sets the rules and standards by which the game is played? Surely not the PGA? Regardless if you agree or disagree with the anchoring ban, the game needs to be played (and taught) by the same set of rules by all – touring pros and weekend hackers.
John Sheffield,
Thanks John for the post. If it wasn’t for the touring pro’s and the great players that have grown this game who knows where it would be. The T.V. exposure every week will make it very hard to not allow the anchoring.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
I disagree with you C.J The R&A are the golf rules and nomatter whether your a top tour pro or weekend hacker, the rules are the rules, we play the game for the love of it not to make money from it and there will always be people coming in to the game, we don’t need top pros to keep the game alive!there shouldn’t be rules made for a special few!!
Dear CJ,
I have been following the anchoring debate with some interest. The worst possible outcome for golf as a global game would be for a schism between the PGA tour and the European tour. It would be especially bad for American golf if Europeans were to be able to play with conventional equipment in America but Americans were not able to play globally if they use an anchored putting method.
Personally I feel that the use of anchored putting should have been banned years ago, and whilst I have sympathy with those who have now grown up with it, I think they should now learn to play golf properly and suffer with the rest of us! Nobody ever said that golf was meant to be an easy game.
Regards and best wishes,
Alastair Campbell
Alastair Campbell,
You bring up some good points Alastair and I definitely understand your point. Golf is not easy and the problem is many people quit because of it. My view and opinion on allowing anchoring is simply to help grow the game.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ
Alastair this is exactly what I have been telling my friends and golf colleagues. I also think that these putters are not good for the game. Using them is like using an Explanar off every tee box, except you carry these putters in your bag and make a fool of yourself each time you pull the thing out.
Learn how to swing your arms and keep’em straight, I say.
I think the amateur golfers who pay the bills have been forgotten. It;s a small cadre who started this ban. And if it was that easy or sure fire, they would all be doing it.
I have a picture showing anchoring at the Riviera club in the early 1900′s, but no titanium or ProV1′s.
John Domagal,
John thanks for the blog post. I would love to see that picture. Could you please scan it and send it to my customer support team at support@perfectconnectiongolfswing.com and let them know I wanted to see it. That would be cool to see.
Keep em Long and Straight,
CJ