What’s the Correct Ball Position?

Yesterday we talked about how the “A” part of the equation can vastly improve your consistency and lower your handicap…

…and today, we’ll move on to the “B” element (which, by the way, most amateurs get wrong).

I urge you–check this one out.

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24 Comments

  1. David Radley says:

    Hi
    Thanks for all your efforts to help we miserable handicap players.
    I don’t wish to be pedantic, but often one is told to have the ball 1 inch or less inside the heel of the front foot for Driver and slightly more for 3 wood. Using your method of moving the back foot further back with shorter clubs starting with the ball in the middle of one’s stance the feet would have to be starting (for PW) only 2 – 3 inches apart! This surely is an anomaly unless the ball should be 2 or more inches inside the left heel for driver.

    • CJ Goecks says:

      David Radley,
      Thanks David for the post. Your distance apart with your feet with a wedge should be just inside the shoulders. Place the ball in the middle with the wedges and simply make your right foot wider with each club until they get normal distance apart with the driver. You will see how the ball appears to move more forward the wider your right foot gets. hope this makes sense.
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

  2. Jim says:

    Wow CJ that makes so much sence. It definitely works. I agree with one of the other guys. You are much better at keeping the game simple and easy to understand.
    Thanks

    • CJ Goecks says:

      Jim,
      Thanks Jim for the kind words and I am glad I have been able to help you. Keeping it simple really is the way for people to understand. This game is difficult enough especially while learning through the internet. I can’t imagine making this game more difficult than it is by making instruction hard to follow.
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

      • jack Westover says:

        C.J. As far as alignment, please discuss more fully, if you will, how far away to stand from the ball as you move from Driver to Wedge. Thanks.

        • CJ Goecks says:

          Jack Westover,
          Thanks Jack for the question. In regards to distance from the ball make a fist and a thumb with your left hand as if you were hitch hiking. Now place the pad of your hand against your zipper and where your thumb sticks out to is where the butt end of the club should be. With a wood it can be a small amount further away, but that drill is a good drill to make sure your the proper distance away from the ball.
          Keep em Long and Straight,
          Cj

  3. harris says:

    We have been having a debate lately. I think the average driving distance for the average ( not Scratch ) amature is 190-210 yards. My friends say 240-250. Who is correct. I also think golfers generally think they hit the ball further than they do.

    C. J. You indicate that half way back ones glove hand is in the middle of his chest. Does it stay generally in that areaa at the top of the swing? I really concentrated on doing that and the swing seemed really shorter. I hit the ball good. Does it feel like a short swing? I think I am turning too much.

  4. Roberto Giannini says:

    Hi CJ,

    I sent you a blog entry on 10/1 as a reply on the Weigh Loss Challenge post that still requires moderation. Also, I commented on the Ryder Cup that was awesome – for me!
    Cheers,
    Roberto

    • CJ Goecks says:

      Hi roberto,

      We have you in the challenge. Thanks!

    • CJ Goecks says:

      Roberto Giannini,
      Thanks Roberto for the blog post. I will answer your question here in a bit. Sorry for the delay on getting back to you. We spent the entire week in meetings and planning for the upcoming changes to the website and insiders club. I am so excited for the changes that are coming in the next few months. I am impatient and want them now, but this stupid computer programming stuff takes time that i don’t understand. Anyways Congrats on the Ryder Cup…darn Euro’s kicking our butt again.
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

  5. Dave Thomas says:

    Hi CJ, I just wanted to comment on how much weight you’ve lost. Looking great, keep up the great work and of couse your great lessons.

    • CJ Goecks says:

      Dave Thomas,
      Thanks Dave for the kind words. I am trying to lose more weight so hopefully next video session you will be able to see a difference again. Thanks for the comment and let me know if you have any questions.
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

  6. JIM DOYLE says:

    Just to be sure, if the ball is to far ahead in my stance thus creating my shoulders to open, as suggested in video, could be a reason that I might be slicing or pushing my shots?

    • CJ Goecks says:

      Jim Doyle,
      Thanks Jim for the blog post. Yes, having the ball too far forward will open your shoulders and cause the slice. This won’t really cause the push though unless your club face is really open. If your pushing the ball then I would work on the up the wall drill. let me know if this helps.
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

  7. Steve Kenney says:

    CJ, I have attempted to basically center the bal in my stance making minor adjustments for which ever club I am using. However it seems that when I do this I am striking the ground about 6 inches or more behind the ball. I am a lefty & these are the positions I have to set up to be able to hit the ball with any consistancy. My driver at my right heel, woods & long irons centered, mid irons at my left toe & short irons & wedges approximately 3-6 inches behind my left foot. Is there any explaination why I have to set up that way & is there a way that I can bring these positions closer together & still hit the ball?

  8. Tony says:

    Hi CJ. I have been regularly going to the driving range to get used to hitting the ball. In the driving range I can use my wedges without a problem. But on the fairway, it was the opposite. I have a hard time using the wedges. Oftentimes I use my 9 or 7 iron to chip the shot hoping to land the ball on the green. Please help.

    Thanks,
    tony

    • CJ Goecks says:

      Tony,
      Thanks for the question. Have you seen my short game DVD? Your problem is that your left wrist is breaking down. With no pressure you can get away with it, but you must keep that left wrist firm through impact. If you have seen my DVD then the advice would be to not burn yourself. Hope this helps
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

  9. Gary Goetz says:

    Hi CJ,
    I love watching your tips.You don’t over explain things.I watch other instructions on line and alot of them get boring after 6 or 7 minutes.I like this video about ball postion.Is it true that Jack N. would play everything off His left heal?I thought I read that a long time ago.Also,would another way to find the ball postion would be by just swinging at the ground and where ever your divot is that would be the place to position to ball and adjust your feet from there?Thanks for the great tips,Gary Goetz

    P:S CJ do peoiple have a problem pronouncing your last name?If they do I know how you feel.My last name is Goetz(pronounced Getz the O is silent).I get everything from goats to Gotez.

    • CJ Goecks says:

      Gary Goetz,
      Thanks Gary for the kind words and feedback on the tips. I appreciate the kind words very much. I am not sure if Jack played everything off of his left heel or not, but I know you can keep the ball position the same and simply make your right foot wider and the ball will have appeared to have moved. Just remember that short irons should be played at center to slightly forward and driver should be off left heel. The total distance is only about two ball widths so somewhere in between there is good for your clubs depending on the length of the club. In regards to my name being mispronounced yes it happens all the time. In 36 years I think I have had 3 people say it correctly. Oh well, here is to my mission to get my name recognized across the world and pronounced correctly. LOL
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

  10. John Fields says:

    Re ball position at address:What is the top of the shaft/hand position in relation to the belly button using either ball postion set up.ie just forward of the ball,in line with belly button,next to left thigh for each club

    • CJ Goecks says:

      John Fields,
      Thanks John for the question. I would recommend the hands slightly ahead of the ball with the irons and even or slightly behind with the woods. Hope this answers your question.
      Keep em Long and Straight,
      CJ

      • Larry Casterline says:

        I had an instuctor who said put down the two alignment rods (like you did) then put your feet together so that the rod is between your feet, then take an club and move your front foot so that the head of the club would be between the rod and your front foot, then move the back foot for the lenght of club you are using. It works for me and it is about the same thing you are saying. Thanks, Larry

        • CJ Goecks says:

          Larry Casterline,
          Thanks Larry for the blog post. I hope this will help someone else. Best wishes.
          Keep em Long and Straight,
          CJ

  11. Troy Vayanos says:

    Very simple to follow, I like this method. Adjusting the stance accordingly to fit the type of club you are using makes a lot of sense rather than just pushing the golf ball too far forward or back.

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